Assessing the National Security Risks Posed by Big Tech in Europe

Twominutes googling (!) shows the Atlantic Council exists to promote US companies in Europe, no bias there then eh Mark Scott.

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There must have been someone else you could have to talked to … ?

Denmark and Switzerland are ditching as well

The question is whether Germany wakes up. In silence some parts of European governments already have ditched Microsoft.

Just build your own tech. But start with a YouTube equivalent first so I don’t have to see these titles any more that goes for a Reddit to ya wild on their

NextCloud rocks! You can run it at home with Immich and start to wonder why people pay to MS and Google.

Definitely 😂

The only choice is China! Here you go. Your choice!

I do not like this guests attitude there are plenty of successful European tech maybe not at the level or quantity to American but they def are an ecosystem. It in large parts comes down to investments it is something Europe needs to get better at and support. We need to invest on a state level and state level need to mandatory choose European tech suppliers and or Open Source. Put your money where your mouth is and hire European tech workers to built out European tech sovereignty.

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You know there was a time no one used zoom or Teams. Just because people use it doesn’t mean they are not willing to switch given an alternative. Don’t trust American products people!

The cause and foundation of the problem is Italy and France Paris,, America,, in jesus mighty name Amen,, America,, in jesus mighty name Amen, salam Aleikum, wa Aleikum Salam,,

They hate trump so much they are willing to tare down everything….

Please Europe ditch US tech, it's such an easy win for European political parties.

Good morning Europe! I hop this not late

Wow, this lacked a lot of depth and context. I'm glad the Nextcloud guy was there to put some nuance back into the conversation. A few things: reasoning that "if the software was good enough it would have been used already" is like saying "you can create software, and it will sell itself". There is also marketing, investment, regulation frameworks, and so on so forth. Furthermore, stating that "developers in Europe need to be trained" is showing some real ignorance too. There is a huge amount of software talent in Europe, they're just less focused on creating software products, and are in different industries for the most part. Also naive questions like "is it too late" are just cringe. What does "too late" mean? Is there some milestone that defines when software and services can be replaced? It's not even a question that we should cut dependencies with the US, the simple fact that they've been acting as adversaries to Europe means that they cannot be trusted.

All that aside, you can focus on a few million computers in the French government, but that is only the beginning. Literally every large organization in Europe is reconsidering, and next to government, it is especially true for regulated markets such as finance and medical systems as well. Dutch national bank has signed a contract with StackIT for cloud services (or "hyperscaler" if you will) next to multiple other European cloud alternatives booming as hard as the weapon industry at the moment (which wasn't exactly hard to predict, there is a huge market there now). Next to that, buying policies are very likely to shift to "Europe first" for major organizations, and the EU is providing funding to innovative startups. This is a huge wave that will cause impact over the next decades.

There are things happening on the consumer markets as well. Movements like "Buy from EU" cause a shift away from American services. People like to joke "but what are you doing here on Youtube", while at the same time, my music is streamed from Qobuz, my news comes from Inoreader, my mail is on Mailfence (plenty of others too, like Tuta, Proton, Soverin, etc.), everything is shifting away eventually. Of course the tech savvy users pave the way, but don't forget that they are the same people who can make it happen.

It is too simple to think products are not being used because they “are not good enough”. There are many other factors. Look at the disappearance of Lotus 123 very clearly superior to Excel and yet is lost

Good morning EUROPE – Swiss, Andora, Montenegro, Moldova, half Istambul, Moscow, Britain etc etc 🙌🏻

The real truth coming from a French high level civil servants, France cannot afford Microsoft licenses anymore.
Look at the French debts and no collateral to back it.
France is a broke country.

Complacency, the vendor lock-in "this is way its done" is the barrier. It is not essential to use the bloatware provided by ms, open office, google docs with its ultra lean .md format replace ms entirely. MS is at the explorer moment in software. Our team has removed all ms office products and system boot times have improved exponentially. MS and the scraping it does is not even close to secure. While alphabet is American, the corporate ethics there are so far above ms. Get rid of ms asap, if the French or preferably Germany give us an alternative with zero bloat, i will run it as will everyone else. Business has enabled ms and its perverse. We are migrating to next cloud now, indeed last week Google Gemini recommends it as the preferred platform for secure non-scraped communications.

I don't care if it's too late or not, we have to do it.

Quite an ignorant comment: “If it was good enough, they would compete”. Lol, US has had a privileged access to European markets and now is surprised it will be replaced by its competitors en masse due to our values not aligning anymore. There is enough great talent in Europe to work on these solutions, we’d better start paying them money to do it.

These lot are been paid by the us tech

I to not use facebook,americans have too much access to european privacy

American companies will control EU as we know they are aggressive crooks without any morale ..trump style 😂..they will buy out politicians easily

Well peopls are moving to linux, so watch this space

Did the host smirk at EU's past failed efforts in the digital area, apparently with contempt? For a moment I thought I was watching Fox news.

There is no security with us tech, they spy

The French police have used Linux instead of Windows for 20 yrs. So this is not a standing start, they have a good foundation in Gendbuntuu to build on. Some more recent Linux distros copy the windows layout making transfer/training easier for new users.

The changes came with the US Cloud Act by passing GDPR, and the closure of an ICC Judge's MS accounts. If was a "light bulb" moment of – if they can do that to him, why not someone in my Govt? So it triggers a process. It's not the money.

Is the product good enough? The French Police have 20 yrs of successful testing and development. So yes it is good enough, it is available and proven it works.

Linux runs an any laptop only hardware issues are connecting with printers and peripherals thats all.

US tech works because VC funds work better than in the EU where start up capital/support can't match the US. There is not an EU equivalent of "the US dream" for example.

Ugh, Europe can't do this. This is all just hyperbole because of the current US administration.

The hope is that with all this doomsday speak will force the US to vote differently next election. It is not really about "national security". They gave that up long ago.

All they really want is their benevolent overlord back.

Don't worry Europe. Probably with the next election the US might elect a friendlier president, that will stroke your ego again: "Yes, your very important, don't worry. We'll take care of you."

The entire world should do this

Told you

Well, that was a not so very informed or informative conversation seeing the times we actually find ourselves in. Canadian YouTuber Hous of El is a geopolitical analyst and computer scientist who has some good facts- and systems-analysis-based videos on these matters and so much more. Highly recommend her.

Microsoft is easy to ditch as their services are garbage. But with Amazon and Google it's a different story: their services are actually good.

I totally disagree with this guy regarding opensource. It is not a matter of how good the product is… It is a matter of how much you spend in marketing. Open source projects can be 10 times better than commercial ones but if there is no one to do a conference presenting the new pearphone 25, only a few will use it.

The best example is Linux based distributions, they are often way better than windows, though people use windows.

The second problem is support, linux solved it with redhat and canonical. But for most open source projects if you want a new feature you need to implement it.

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je pense que vous ne connaissez pas bien les français qui a fermé toutes les bases américaines en France qui a quitté l'otan (revenue depuis) qui a la seul puissance militaire indépendante des USA et pour rappel la gendarmerie utilise pour ses ordinateurs GENDBUNTU depuis 2008 (linux) mais venant d'un anglais ou d'un allemand pas étonnant